Comments for Random Neural Misfirings http://8stars.org/a My life and the world around me Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:08:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Boundaries by adamrice http://8stars.org/a/2011/08/10/boundaries/comment-page-1/#comment-44785 adamrice Wed, 10 Aug 2011 19:08:43 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2419#comment-44785 Ira: you're right. It is assault. I don't know for sure why it wasn't dealt with in the moment, but I can offer some possibilities: - The people who were threatened were freaked out but didn't want to involve the authorities. - The people who were threatened didn't think of escalating it to the Rangers or anyone in charge at the time. A lot of problems only get reported long after the fact. As I said, Flipside is an experiment in community. And the thing about experiments is that they don't always succeed. I think it's fair to say, judging from the discussion on the CC mailing list about this issue, that there will be more people with sharper eyes for anything like this in the future, and if we hear about it, it won't go unanswered. Epiphany: What boundary-crossing by people in leadership positions do you know of? I agree with the general point of leading by example, but if anything, it seems the more immediate problem has been too little "telling others not to." Ira: you’re right. It is assault. I don’t know for sure why it wasn’t dealt with in the moment, but I can offer some possibilities:
- The people who were threatened were freaked out but didn’t want to involve the authorities.
- The people who were threatened didn’t think of escalating it to the Rangers or anyone in charge at the time. A lot of problems only get reported long after the fact.

As I said, Flipside is an experiment in community. And the thing about experiments is that they don’t always succeed. I think it’s fair to say, judging from the discussion on the CC mailing list about this issue, that there will be more people with sharper eyes for anything like this in the future, and if we hear about it, it won’t go unanswered.

Epiphany: What boundary-crossing by people in leadership positions do you know of? I agree with the general point of leading by example, but if anything, it seems the more immediate problem has been too little “telling others not to.”

]]> Comment on Boundaries by Epiphany Jordan http://8stars.org/a/2011/08/10/boundaries/comment-page-1/#comment-44784 Epiphany Jordan Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:52:01 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2419#comment-44784 Ah, and one more thing: leading by example is a good place to start. I didn't want to attend a party where boundary-crossing was occurring in serious ways by those who were in key leadership positions. Not sure if this still happens, but it makes it hard for others to take seriously when the people in charge are doing what they are telling others not to. Ah, and one more thing: leading by example is a good place to start. I didn’t want to attend a party where boundary-crossing was occurring in serious ways by those who were in key leadership positions. Not sure if this still happens, but it makes it hard for others to take seriously when the people in charge are doing what they are telling others not to.

]]> Comment on Boundaries by Ira Weinschel http://8stars.org/a/2011/08/10/boundaries/comment-page-1/#comment-44783 Ira Weinschel Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:47:13 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2419#comment-44783 Threatening someone with a fake-but-real-looking pistol is quite clearly assault. Why would this behavior be tolerated for even a moment? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault Threatening someone with a fake-but-real-looking pistol is quite clearly assault. Why would this behavior be tolerated for even a moment? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault

]]> Comment on Boundaries by Epiphany Jordan http://8stars.org/a/2011/08/10/boundaries/comment-page-1/#comment-44782 Epiphany Jordan Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:52:21 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2419#comment-44782 This lack of attention to serious boundary problems is exactly why I don't attend your party anymore. The solution is quite simple: if you are going to do something to someone that they probably won't like, that is for your enjoyment and not theirs, you need to get their explicit permission. This lack of attention to serious boundary problems is exactly why I don’t attend your party anymore. The solution is quite simple: if you are going to do something to someone that they probably won’t like, that is for your enjoyment and not theirs, you need to get their explicit permission.

]]> Comment on Boundaries by Tony Cooke http://8stars.org/a/2011/08/10/boundaries/comment-page-1/#comment-44781 Tony Cooke Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:15:39 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2419#comment-44781 I can understand the complexity of the issue. A no weapons policy seems logical. I can understand the complexity of the issue. A no weapons policy seems logical.

]]> Comment on Boundaries by Thomas http://8stars.org/a/2011/08/10/boundaries/comment-page-1/#comment-44780 Thomas Wed, 10 Aug 2011 16:11:10 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2419#comment-44780 I loved reading this. Thanks for doing so! To your wrap-up questions... 1. Underlying Issue - and prepare to debate what the underlying issue 'is' is. 2. This is subjective and case-by-case. I trust good judgement on this one. 3. Yes. 4. No. I loved reading this. Thanks for doing so!

To your wrap-up questions…
1. Underlying Issue – and prepare to debate what the underlying issue ‘is’ is.
2. This is subjective and case-by-case. I trust good judgement on this one.
3. Yes.
4. No.

]]> Comment on Sometimes the new ways are the best by Jenny Nazak http://8stars.org/a/2011/07/04/sometimes-the-new-ways-are-the-best/comment-page-1/#comment-44746 Jenny Nazak Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:50:33 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2395#comment-44746 Happy Grilling and Happy 4th, Adam and Gwen! Happy Grilling and Happy 4th, Adam and Gwen!

]]> Comment on Flipside 2011 by Tony Cooke http://8stars.org/a/2011/05/31/flipside-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-44748 Tony Cooke Wed, 01 Jun 2011 04:18:56 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2379#comment-44748 I would like to discuss the meaning of the effigy w you at some point, too. I would like to discuss the meaning of the effigy w you at some point, too.

]]> Comment on Flipside 2011 by Tony Cooke http://8stars.org/a/2011/05/31/flipside-2011/comment-page-1/#comment-44747 Tony Cooke Wed, 01 Jun 2011 04:18:18 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2379#comment-44747 Excellent write-up. This is the first report I've heard from this years Flipside. I'm guessing everyone else I know is still recovering. Excellent write-up. This is the first report I’ve heard from this years Flipside. I’m guessing everyone else I know is still recovering.

]]> Comment on Getting the message by "the" Tony Cooke http://8stars.org/a/2011/05/08/getting-the-message/comment-page-1/#comment-44480 "the" Tony Cooke Tue, 10 May 2011 20:52:16 +0000 http://8stars.org/a/?p=2370#comment-44480 This was a huge deal between a former girlfriend and me. She would call and not leave messages because "I would see that she called." Sometimes I would call her back and it would be something that she didn't need me for anymore. The whole process angered me so I made it clear: LEAVE A MESSAGE IF YOU WANT ME TO CALL YOU BACK! This was a huge deal between a former girlfriend and me. She would call and not leave messages because “I would see that she called.” Sometimes I would call her back and it would be something that she didn’t need me for anymore. The whole process angered me so I made it clear: LEAVE A MESSAGE IF YOU WANT ME TO CALL YOU BACK!

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